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Darren E
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 Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Qld Hansard 11-9-08 GHG emissions from TCD |
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Qld Parliament Hansard
11th September 2008
page 2722
| Quote: | Traveston Dam
Mr GIBSON: My question is to the Premier. I table a leaked copy of the supplementary EIS for the proposed Traveston Crossing Dam—a report that this government did not want released to the people of Queensland. But, thankfully, a public servant who believed in open and accountable government thought otherwise. I note with interest the analysis of the carbon costs in the report which shows that, at a carbon price of $30 per tonne, when you include the greenhouse gas emissions, the embedded carbon costs and the associated pumping costs, Traveston Crossing Dam is more expensive than a desalination plant. I ask the Premier: is this the first example of the Premier not achieving her Q2 targets for Queensland’s carbon footprint?
Tabled paper: Three folders containing documents relating to Traveston Crossing Dam.
Ms BLIGH: I thank the honourable member for the question. As usual, the questions that you get from that quarter are based on either fundamental untruths or misunderstandings. There is no secrecy to the supplementary EIS. It will be made fully public as part of the EIS—
Mr Gibson interjected.
Mr SPEAKER: Order! Member for Gympie, you have asked the question. As I have indicated in this House to you and to others, you have asked it; listen to the answer.
Ms BLIGH: In fact, it has been provided to relevant stakeholders including the local government. Its comments will be included in the material that is forwarded to the Commonwealth government and made public. There is no secrecy on the supplementary EIS. It is a document that has been made available to all of the relevant stakeholders. They have been given an opportunity to comment on it. Their comments will be incorporated in all of the material—that is, forwarded to the state government, forwarded to the federal government and made fully public. So that is the member’s mistake or mistruth No. 1.
In relation to greenhouse gas emissions from various sources, it is true that dams all over the place—all over the country and all over the world—do produce some greenhouse gas emissions. I would draw the member’s attention to a very useful table in the Commonwealth government’s Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme green paper published in July. What that shows is that the proportion of national emissions excluding deforestation from water supply, sewerage and drainage services is 0.9 per cent. What is the proportion of national emissions excluding deforestation from dairy cattle? It is 2.7 per cent.
Mr Springborg: So if you drown the cows it will be better? That is what you are saying.
Mr SPEAKER: Order!
Ms BLIGH: I draw attention to this merely to make the point that there is so much human activity that does produce greenhouse gas emissions. Are we saying that we should cease the cattle industry? No, of course we are not. Are we saying that human beings should stop drinking water so we can then close down our dams?
Mr Springborg interjected.
Mr SPEAKER: Order! I warn the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms BLIGH: Would the member for Gympie have us drain the Wivenhoe Dam? This is an absolute nonsense. I am very happy to remind the House that the greenhouse gas emissions estimated to be produced by the Traveston Crossing Dam will be fully and completely offset.
Miss Simpson: It is not a gravity-fed dam.
Ms BLIGH: The hydrological engineers are on the job over there, Mr Speaker.
Miss Simpson interjected.
Mr SPEAKER: Order! I warn the member for Maroochydore.
Ms BLIGH: All of the greenhouse gas emissions to be produced by Traveston Crossing Dam will be fully offset by a very innovative plantation program that will not only offset them but will more than offset them, and I recommend it to the House. |
Good-on-ya David. 
As for Bligh's response - there's a couple of tonnes of GHG right there!
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Darren E
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: Download your copies here |
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The Queensland Parliament Legislative Assembly website has now made the TCD EIS Supplementary Report - as tabled by David Gibson - available for download.
Please, if you can, take the time to download these files. Even if you only intend to scan the table of contents. Remember, Premier Bligh said that copies had been distributed to "all of the relevant stakeholders".
You, and I, the Save the Mary River Group, the MRCCC, the WBBCCC, the ACF, the QCC, the Member for Gympie and the 11,000 or so people who submitted comments to the draft EIS are apparently not included in the definition of "relevant stakeholders".
Let the government know that you are a stakeholder, and you are relevant.
(If your internet connection doesn't extend to such large files, you can contact the Qld Parliament Clerk on 34067525 or email BillsandPapers@parliament.qld.gov.au and quote Ref. No. 5208T4115 to organise a free CD.)
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On the website, the report is broken into three parts:
Part 1. 1009 pages. File size 67 MB.
Main body of report. From Table of Contents to References.
(**see below for smaller download file size)
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/legislativeAssembly/tableOffice/documents/TabledPapers/2008/5208T4115.pdf
Part 2. 1068 pages. File size 12 MB.
Appendix C8 to C26
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/legislativeAssembly/tableOffice/documents/TabledPapers/2008/5208T4115A.pdf
Part 3. 585 pages. File size 10 MB.
Appendix A to C7
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/legislativeAssembly/tableOffice/documents/TabledPapers/2008/5208T4115B.pdf
** Part 1 is a VERY large file. It is almost identical to another file which also fell off the back of a truck recently. The alternative file is one page shorter (1008 pages) with only two differences: it is 37MB smaller and it is missing a page of the Table of Contents entitled | Quote: | | APPENDIX D CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION (Copy provided to the Department of Infrastructure and Planning) |
I wonder what is in Appendix D? No doubt we will never get to see it, but will the Federal Minister?.
Inexplicably, the extra page in the tabled copy of the report adds 37 MB to the download file size. If you would prefer the much smaller, but unsanctioned version, it is available at Traveston Swamp News:
Part 1 (compressed version) 1008 pages. 29 MB.
http://swampnews.squarespace.com/downloads/eis-supplementary-report/EIS%20Supp%20Rept.pdf
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